Vision Forum Hegemony

I've always been given to believe that it was far more "glory, God, and gold" than an "evangelical vision", but apparently knowing one or two things about history interferes with the forum's vision.

"inter-racial" marriage would have been, and is now, and will always be, a selling point for this nautically-sound, evangelical ambassador. Pocahontas, as we see her, was indeed a selling point in herself, a figure enencumbered by taglines or slogans. Though her father, arguably, believed in strange and violent tribal initiation rites, Pocahontas made paganism very attractive. Later, however, she became a shining example of Christian/British/Motherland assimilation. I've been reading through Deuteronomy lately, though, and recall how strict orders are given by Moses, under the auspices of national holiness, of course, dictating how any woman outside the tribe of Israel must, in order to be assimilated into the tribe in sanctified form, have her head shaven, and be put into confinement for a month to mourn her new estrangement from her parents. I realize Jamestown was established under the New Covenant, yet many of these Old Testament practices were rightly upheld, in spirit if not in exact practice, after the coming of Christ. I recently reccommended this practice to my wife. A formal decision is forthcoming.

It's always been my understanding that the purpose of Jamestown was to make money, and the purpose of settling what would become the Massachusetts Bay colony was all the standard "America as a Chrisian nation" stuff.

In all the arguments about America as a Christian nation, I wonder if the Warhol Response is the best one, the Warhol response being "so what?"

Incidentally, wasn't it Jesus who said something about traveling over the sea to make one convert and then making him twice the child of hell?

Isn't the Internet great...we Christians can sit in the comfort of our homes and offices and bash/ridicule other Christian brethren with a few slashes on the keyboard. Heaven forbid if we actually have a direct dialog with the brothers we so openly criticize instead of roasting them on the blogosphere for the entire non-christian world to see and take note.

I'm sure it's no consolation, but I'm inclined towards doing both.

Still, if Chuck Norris' is supporting a thing, I'd better be careful lest I earn myself a roundhouse kick to the head for God & Country.

Elisha,

and all: take thy grievances up with me. Step into my chamber and lay down thy burdens.

I am an original tobacco farmer.

"Jamestown gave America a foundation of biblical unity in Christ, when the colonial leadership became the first Americans to formally recognize the legal and theological propriety of

The Vision Forum makes me sad as a Christian. When we were living in inner-city Atlanta as the only white couple for 15 blocks and I got their catalogue in the mail I had to throw it away immediately because it looks like white Christian propaganda. As if the were saying, "We were better off in the colonial days shooting indians ,having slaves,and getting our "biblical" manhood on full swing."
Their collection of dolls for girls only included Pocahantas because she helped the white people. And what did the white people do when they reached the West-slaughtered the Indian and forced the m off the land. The "Vision Forum" probably has no idea of how upsetting their stuff is to non-whites, seeing as how I did not see any body but white people in their staff. I could be wrong, but they are creepy people to me with how adamant they are that the colonial days really had Christianity together.

Andyp, Your comment on the "Vision Forum" ministry is not correct. I am familiar with this ministry and they would never even hint that it is good to shoot indians or have slaves, that is absolutely ridiculous.
Regarding their products, they have dolls of every shade and color.
I dont quite understand your racial remarks, they are "creepy people" because they have people with fair skin on the cover of their catalogue? So does Jcrew!

Andyp....Talk about judging a book by it's cover. So we now judge a fellow Christian organization by the number of white people on their staff? Are you actually serious? You look through their catalog or website and see it as promoting murder, slavery, etc? Comon..please tell me you are joking. If you are going to criticize your fellow Christians at vision forum through a public blog...why don't you take 5 mins and call their 800# and tell them how their catalog made you feel. Wouldn't that be better to give them honest feedback instead of slamming them online. Just a thought....but hey what are blogs for?

Well from what I can tell Phillips must think that having slaves is a really neat idea. The guy writes poetry praising the biggest slavery defender the South ever had. "Hail Dabney, defender of the South!" Dabney only wrote "A Defense Of The South" for one reason. To defend slavery! This is the guy that Phillips hails as a "prophet" and THE defender of the South and it's evil institution of slavery. Scary stuff. So is Phillips a racist. Google on "Doug Phillips racist" and here's what I found.

http://graceindelible.blogspot.com/2007/01/joe-friday-on-doug-phillips-and-matt.html
http://graceindelible.blogspot.com/2007/02/whirled-views-on-doug-phillips-and.html

Oh, this is too too much! Doug "The Racist" Phillips, whose historical revisionist teachings have been compared to "Hitler propoganda," is now Mr. Multicultural? I guess a pro-slavery hypocrite like Phillips will stop at nothing to sanitize his image. Doug Phillips is evil and cannot be trusted.