Please Help Me

Cry me a river, little girl.

I went through the whole process, but I didn't want to participate in a "free" offer. Does that still count? If so, congratulations. If not, sorry. I don't have any use for Trimlife, USA Today, or a CD club. Good luck, though.

A referral program for an iPod? That sounds contradictory. I wouldn't have thought that the types of people who own an iPod would want other people to own them as well.

I was close to getting one myself but I heard there are some massive problems with a battery issue. Do those still exist? Actually I just looked into it and found this. Hmmm, $99 every couple of years for a new battery. Thats not so bad I guess. I dunno I'll think about it Josiah and let you know if I do. Ive been thinking about getting one of the mini-ipods to use while running. Hehe, plus I'd definitely have to add in the cost of some non-white headphones.

If you're that close, you seriously out to consider having April sign up for Blockbuster.com or something.

THe thing I was thinking, too, was - you could open five false emails, and sign up for all six things, and still end up getting an iPod for a price cheaper than purchasing it retail, right? I mean, if you were to open those five, you could get as many of teh free credit cards as you can, then get whichever services, and you might be spending anywhere from $60-$120 on a $300 iPod. The arbitrage opportunities for an enterprising man seem there. You could just take that iPod that you got for essentially $60-$120 and sell it on eBay for just below market price. Do that a few times and you could just buy straightaway a 40 GB iPod from Apple at no charge.

Yeah, but there's a problem with that. It's called "fraud", and scary people have bad things to say about it.

Is it fraud? The false emails are fraud or buying your only referals? Because if it's just the former, you could then just pay your friends the cost of the service and it's the same thing.

Never mind:

(d) A user may not use another person's name or information to receive products from this website. For example, one person may not join the site for another person, or complete offers for another person's account.

(a) Individual users may not create multiple accounts within our point-based sites. If you are a member of one point-based site, then you are automatically a member of all other points-based sites, and may login with the same user name and password as well as earn and spend points among all point-based sites.

Hey, man. Did I ever show up on your list as having completed an offer? Because I DID complete a friggin' offer and they haven't credited it to me yet. Did they at least give you credit for it?

Fraud: 1. A knowing misrepresentation of the truth or concealment of a material fact to induce another to act to his or her detriment. - Black's Law Dictionary - 7ed. Have I ever told you, josiah, that I think you'd make an excelent trial attorney.

I'm not a lawyer, so I know nothing about the technicalities of this. But if freeipods did not include the clauses I posted above, would you still be liable for fraud if you paid someone else to purchase the services on there? Because where exactly would you be misrepresenting the truth or concealing a material fact to induce someone else to their detriment? If someone paid $20 for the blockbuster.com service, and you then compensated them $10 for it, then who has been induced to act to their own detriment?

Scott, that's why the law is GREAT!, b/c you can build arguments both ways. We don't argue black and white, we argue gray area's (and in many cases create the gray area to argue over...what seems to be black and white is turned gray just by making an argument). The ipod people could argue that the intent of the contract was to have josiah get people he knew to voluntarily sign up for their other products, to act as their sales rep. of sorts in which he would be compensated w/ a free ipod. they could further argue that by paying people to sign up frustrates the purpose of the agreement and constitutes bad faith. The fraud would be that he represented to ipod that he had sold (voluntarily) their products to 5 other individuals when in fact he paid them to sign up. Of course I am saying all this w/o seeing the contract, but the above are just basic principles of contracts. Basically, you can't just look at the written words of the contract, there are intangibles present also. The concepts of fraud, duress, good faith and fair dealing, and others are built into every contract, not by word but by legal principle or public policy. But again, you could make a very good argument (absent the clauses you noted above) that the intent of the contract was just to get people to sign up for the services and no implication of volition was ever a part of the contract. Isn't the law great! Again, josiah, you should go to law school, I think you could do well.

ya Timmy, I've thought about it, but I like projects way more than I like arguing and, you know, truth-shifting if you catch my meaning (given how long we've been friends, I'm sure you do).

That's alright. Once Coptix gets big enough we'll have our own personal, full time laywers. Right now I've got you, DP, and Julian on tap. It'll be great! I've got all sorts of crap I wanna try.

I wonder, if it could be proven that Freeipods.com is defrauding people, if there's anything that could be done about it. Wow, that was awkwardly worded, but you get my point.

If it could be proved (through, say, a "smoking gun" memo) that freeipods.com was defrauding people, then yes, it is a cut and dried misrepresentation case. Probaby could be brought as a class action suit. In Texas, maybe even could bring it as a DTPA (Deceptive Trade Practices Act) action, and get treble damages plus attorney's fees.

I heard good things about freeipods.com in wired, so theres a really good chances its legit, if you still need another person I'll sign up just leave me a comment in my blog and I'll set it up. I wanna get my own free one myself.

its definitely legit my friend got his. Look around on the internet and youl see that it is. Heres a different site. http://www.mp3players4free.com/default.aspx?r=9099
Its the exact same thing. You can be signed up for both sites. It doesnt cost anything for an offer. After three days you can get credited and then just cancel th trial. Trust me it works.