for the teenage years

[13:53] BLiNK iZ0: hey
[13:53] BLiNK iZ0: heh
[13:53] BLiNK iZ0: stupid to spam ur inbox with shit as i think of it
[13:53] BLiNK iZ0: when ur online x.x
[13:53] BLiNK iZ0: If you really wanted to resolve the situation why dont you talk to _ or _
[13:53] BLiNK iZ0: have you tried hearing what they have to say?
[13:54] ACEofspades185: Yeah, I have.
[13:54] ACEofspades185: I sat there and listened for sever hours.
[13:54] ACEofspades185: It was sad, the only topic they regularly could think of solid thoughts was how appearently "Stupid" _ is.
[13:54] ACEofspades185: And whats really sad, is to their face, they actually act like they're his friend.
[13:54] ACEofspades185: Its sad really.
[13:54] ACEofspades185: But, I wasn't hitting them directly.
[13:55] ACEofspades185: I.E. why I did it on Myspace.
[13:55] ACEofspades185: Because granted, they are the first people I'm going to make stop, I wanted to make an example to every one else.
[13:55] ACEofspades185: If you want to talk shit about some one, do it in privacy.
[13:55] ACEofspades185: Now around me.
[13:55] ACEofspades185: not**
[13:56] ACEofspades185: But on the bright side, I'm quitting smoking :)
[13:56] ACEofspades185: Well, I'm trying to again.
[13:57] ACEofspades185: HAHAHA.
[13:57] BLiNK iZ0: so why is all this drama happening again?
[13:57] ACEofspades185: You did spam my email.
[13:57] BLiNK iZ0: because _ and _ think _ is "stupid"?
[13:57] ACEofspades185: No.
[13:58] ACEofspades185: Because they say he's their friend to start with, and then as soon as he leaves, they talk shit about him to every one. And I'm not going to stand for it.
[13:59] BLiNK iZ0: then the way to end this is simple>.>
[13:59] ACEofspades185: I admire a man who has the honor and integrity to tell some one to their face how they feel, no matter how direct or indirect it is, but when you call some one a friend and then talk shit about them.
[13:59] ACEofspades185: Really.
[13:59] ACEofspades185: Go for it.
[13:59] BLiNK iZ0: Tell them not to talk badly about any of your friends around you.
[13:59] ACEofspades185: Hah.
[13:59] ACEofspades185: And do you think _ and _ will stop?
[13:59] ACEofspades185: _ hates me.
[13:59] ACEofspades185: And they're both to arrogant of ass holes to listen to me even if I asked them not to.
[13:59] BLiNK iZ0: if you ask them to stop bashing people around you politely, they should.
[14:00] ACEofspades185: But its _.
[14:00] ACEofspades185: He doesn't listen to any one because every one is inferior in every way.
[14:00] BLiNK iZ0: it doesn't matter man if hes an employee of _ and you are technically a patron of that facility
[14:00] BLiNK iZ0: then out of respect for his clients and his job security he will shut his mouth
[14:00] ACEofspades185: I will try, but I doubt it.
[14:01] BLiNK iZ0: otherwise don't be around those type of people, you're better than that
[14:01] BLiNK iZ0: Just ask the two of them politely to not bash your friends while you're around.
[14:01] BLiNK iZ0: tell them that its not cool
[14:01] ACEofspades185: See, its not just me though, its the fact that they lie to him every time they see him.
[14:01] BLiNK iZ0: honey you can't change people.
[14:01] ACEofspades185: They shouldn't be talking shit about him at all.
[14:01] BLiNK iZ0: they have to change themselves.
[14:02] BLiNK iZ0: thats where you should take pity and heart for them
[14:02] ACEofspades185: No, but I can give them reasons why they should change faster.
[14:02] BLiNK iZ0: and hope that one day they will come around.
[14:02] BLiNK iZ0: yes.. but for them to actually listen you have to make convincing arguments with logic, not your fists.
[14:02] ACEofspades185: I know.
[14:03] ACEofspades185: What did you think I was gonna run down there proverbial guns blazing?
[14:03] BLiNK iZ0: Asking them to stop bashing your friends while you're around is a start.
[14:03] BLiNK iZ0: heh
[14:03] BLiNK iZ0: how am i supposed to know;P
[14:03] ACEofspades185: Hah, I'm gonna make _ feel like a piece of trash infront of god and every one, give him some humility.
[14:03] BLiNK iZ0: hope for the best but prepare for the worst
[14:03] ACEofspades185: I know hun.
[14:03] BLiNK iZ0: how are you going to do that?
[14:03] ACEofspades185: _ takes great pride in the fact that he does nothing that warrants insulting.
[14:04] ACEofspades185: He takes pride in the fact that he doesn't do drugs, he doesn't drink, he doesn't do this or that.
[14:04] ACEofspades185: But, one thing he can no longer take pride in is his integrity, and that will be his weakness.
[14:04] ACEofspades185: He makes fun of so many people for so many things.
[14:04] ACEofspades185: Just bashes them publicly... I think its his turn.
[14:05] ACEofspades185: Not only that, I come up with alot of shit at random... so its ok.
[14:06] BLiNK iZ0: well
[14:06] BLiNK iZ0: i see your point
[14:06] BLiNK iZ0: giving him a taste of his own medicine.. i can't say it wasn't coming to him if things are as you say
[14:06] ACEofspades185: I don't know how to deal with _ though.
[14:06] BLiNK iZ0: i guess im asking out of an attempt to preserve your integrity..
[14:06] BLiNK iZ0: make it intelligent:P
[14:06] ACEofspades185: _ is big, arrogant, strong, and just as _, self rightouse.
[14:07] ACEofspades185: Hahaha.
[14:07] BLiNK iZ0: whats your dish with wish
[14:07] ACEofspades185: Same as _.
[14:07] ACEofspades185: They ran through just about every one at the _, just tearing them apart.
[14:08] BLiNK iZ0: where?
[14:08] BLiNK iZ0: when?
[14:08] ACEofspades185: I sat there silently and listened for truths and lies. I wanted to know what they had to say before I did anything.
[14:08] ACEofspades185: Xmas Eve
[14:08] BLiNK iZ0: sometimes people have to put others down to make themselves feel better
[14:08] ACEofspades185: At the _
[14:08] ACEofspades185: In the little couch area.
[14:08] BLiNK iZ0: well
[14:08] ACEofspades185: It was myself, _, _ and _.
[14:08] BLiNK iZ0: hm
[14:08] ACEofspades185: I think some one else was there, but I don't remember who.
[14:08] BLiNK iZ0: on one hand i say you should have said something at the time it was happening
[14:09] BLiNK iZ0: on the other hand you could use the time to your advantage
[14:09] BLiNK iZ0: by saying you know guys, i thought it over cause i really didnt know what to think about everything you two were saying on xmas eve
[14:09] ACEofspades185: I thought about that too, but honestly, I didn't want to say anything without knowing what was going through their heads.
[14:09] ACEofspades185: I didn't know the relationship he had with _.
[14:09] BLiNK iZ0: but i really don't appreciate the way you were talking about my friends
[14:09] BLiNK iZ0: so if you're so compelled to do something so (insert lovely adjectives here) as that
[14:10] BLiNK iZ0: I ask that you not do it around me.
[14:10] BLiNK iZ0: imho i don put up with it from the start
[14:10] BLiNK iZ0: if people are talking shit i say hey , look i don't wanna hear it
[14:10] BLiNK iZ0: if its just talking shit
[14:10] BLiNK iZ0: now if someone has a problem and wants to talk about it like wants advice or something
[14:10] BLiNK iZ0: ill sit there and listen
[14:10] BLiNK iZ0: and try to help
[14:10] ACEofspades185: Same here.
[14:11] ACEofspades185: But that wasn't the case, it was simply to vent and talk shit about something he sees as inferior.
[14:11] BLiNK iZ0: instead of bashing others maybe he should try to help them get on his level since he is so superior
[14:11] BLiNK iZ0: instead of being a person of such moral integrity that it slows everyone down
[14:11] BLiNK iZ0: why not be a leader for his comrades
[14:12] BLiNK iZ0: and help set in motion the changes that he thinks will be so
[14:12] BLiNK iZ0: much better
[14:12] BLiNK iZ0: or whatever
[16:18] BLiNK iZ0: got a question for ya
[16:18] BLiNK iZ0: after our whole long discussion
[16:18] ACEofspades185: Ok, shoot.
[16:19] BLiNK iZ0: what advice would you tell someone who claims that "some people don't learn any other way"
[16:21] ACEofspades185: I don't really know.
[16:24] BLiNK iZ0: i disagree with it but i can't say why
[16:24] BLiNK iZ0: i think it comes down to a matter of respect
[16:25] BLiNK iZ0: between the people
[16:25] BLiNK iZ0: so its not a matter of learning as much as it is one of respect?
[16:25] BLiNK iZ0: because without respect lessons can not be passed on
[16:27] ACEofspades185: True
[16:27] BLiNK iZ0: but it also comes down to being unable to change a person
[16:27] BLiNK iZ0: i mean i think she's having the same issue as you
[16:28] BLiNK iZ0: where its like you can't do anything about people who will talk behind other's backs other than tell them to shut up when you're around and or tell them to make a difference by helping in areas that they see with "issues"?
[16:28] ACEofspades185: Yeah.
[16:29] BLiNK iZ0: do you care if i post our conversation to her
[16:29] BLiNK iZ0: our earlier one
[16:29] ACEofspades185: Thats fine by me.
[16:29] ACEofspades185: If it can help her then so be it.
[16:30] ACEofspades185: I'm all about some help.
[16:31] BLiNK iZ0: hahah
[16:37] BLiNK iZ0: well
[16:37] BLiNK iZ0: ive saved the convo
[16:37] BLiNK iZ0: i responded tho
[16:37] BLiNK iZ0: saying it isn't as much logic as it is respect
[16:38] ACEofspades185: Yeah.
[16:38] ACEofspades185: Thats true.
[16:38] ACEofspades185: It is more respect, however, logic can be used to attain that respect.
[16:39] BLiNK iZ0: bah
[16:39] BLiNK iZ0: well
[16:39] BLiNK iZ0: yes
[16:39] BLiNK iZ0: but you could talk nonsense respectfully
[16:39] BLiNK iZ0: xD
[16:39] BLiNK iZ0: brb
[16:40] ACEofspades185: Lol
[16:40] ACEofspades185: K
[16:40] BLiNK iZ0: well
[16:41] BLiNK iZ0: respect fosters respect
[16:41] ACEofspades185: lol
[16:42] BLiNK iZ0: i think logic would have to be used if respect was not enough to gain respect
[16:42] BLiNK iZ0: like if u were nothign but polite and the other person was just mean
[16:43] BLiNK iZ0: try logic if that doesnt work
[16:43] ACEofspades185: Yup.
[16:43] BLiNK iZ0: id just walk away frmo them
[16:43] BLiNK iZ0: i mean
[16:43] BLiNK iZ0: first making sure the parting is because of their lack of respect and if they want to be friends or whatever great
[16:43] BLiNK iZ0: but otherwise dont surround urself with ppl like that
[16:43] BLiNK iZ0: u know?
[16:44] ACEofspades185: Yup yup.
[16:44] ACEofspades185: I agree completely.
[16:44] BLiNK iZ0: good conversations today
[16:45] BLiNK iZ0: <3